April 19, 2011
David Prosser out of bounds again
We have noted that David Prosser hinted two weeks ago that his team would fight to stop a recount on the specious ground that a 7,000-vote margin cannot be made up and is, therefore, "frivolous." Huh?
Prosser's attorney, James Troupis, actually warned Kloppenburg yesterday that Prosser would, indeed, fight to stop a recount. My view: What is he so worried about? Are there more stories like the Waukesha County travesty? Why else would Justice Prosser try to bully her into accepting her loss?
It would be foolish for Kloppenburg to yield to threats from bully Prosser. On to the recount!
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I'm not so sure that Prosser wants to know the truth about anything. As a lawyer and jurist, all Prosser seems to care about is the manipulation of truth to best suit his case.
Let there be a recount! Recounts are a part of our system just as much as obscure tax breaks are for the wealthy.
-Franz Fripplfrappl | Madison | April 19, 2011
After pomposity and overreach such as this (I mean! who asked him?! this is not Prosser's case to decide, and how ridiculous he looks. This man has so many dogs in this hunt he looks like a one-man Westminster Kennel Club. omg!)
Anyways, even if JoanneK is tired to the bone and sick of it all, out of respect for the WI Silenced Majority she has to request a recount. If she is within the state-paid limit, she'd be throwing away a kind of "resource of democracy" if she doesn't.
It's not really about her right now, it's about the citizens of WI. She has an enormous responsibility to put people's minds at ease and reassure them that their Judge is really.... their Judge. If she lost fair and square she'll have to live through that again, and it will suck, but she can either take it, or she wasn't cut out for this kind of work to begin with. She needs to step up now, and maybe take another hit, for the citizens.
Prosser's also a fool if he doesn't realize that if he's really proven the winner BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT, he can sit on that bench without any clouds hanging over his head. But only after these issues are investigated fully and properly.
Who would deliberately choose to be seen as a corrupt partisan hack and Judicial Joke for the rest of their career if it could possibly be avoided? Presumably, even if he seems really annoying to a lot of us, he has worked hard to get where he is, why risk going down in history as just another Asshat who rode in on the Failboat? XDDD
-Annie K. | Eau Claire, WI | April 19, 2011
Just before the Waukesha weirdness came out, a smaller, yet similar occurrence took place in Winnebago County. There could be more out there.
-Bob Nauta | Oregon, WI | April 19, 2011
Kloppenburg cannot be bullied. A recount is neccessary for the integrity of our Wisconsin Democracy! The vote tallying and devious behavior in Waukesha is shocking to me. That our canvassors and city officials are manipulated by the cheif ballot counter. Nickolous obviously doesn't understand "the vote" is a principal to our democracy and you don't play on your personal computer with this. If it can happen in Waukesha who is to say it doesn't happern somewhere else. There is no debate. We need a recount!
-Jill Henning | Brookfield Wi. | April 19, 2011
Pay no attention to the man, er, woman behind the curtain. The Great and Powerful Corporatocracy is counting your votes in a more or less infallible fashion and you don't need to be worrying your pretty head with it. Go shopping. Wouldn't want to look like a sore loser would you? Only conspiracy theorists question the integrity of our elections.
Seriously, how bad do things have to get before we go ahead and pull the curtain aside? Now would be a good time, I just wonder how we get a thorough, impartial investigation. If we could count on the GAB, Kathy Nikolaus would have been fired years ago.
-Chuck Kudrna | Wautoma Wi. | April 19, 2011
No one posting on the madison.com website seems bothered by this, but I know you folks will be.
I am disturbed that David Prosser chose Jim Troupis, an attorney well-known for his support of conservative causes, to make the case that a request by Asst. Atty. Genl. Kloppenburg for a recount would be "frivolous."
Mr. Troupis is much too politically connected in the State of Wisconsin, and with issues that could come before the Supreme Court, to be Mr. Prosser's representative.
For example: Jim Troupis told Sen. Scott Fitzgerald that he could legally detain the state senators under the "warrants" issued by the State Senate in early March. Troupis is also the attorney who represented Kevin Barthel, the Oconto County Republican Party Chairman who filed suit to compel Sen. Jim Holperin to return to the state senate. http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/article_8d9ad090-45bd-11e0-bf68-001cc4c03286.html
Troupis is the attorney hired by the Wisconsin Republicans to help them draw maps for redistricting. http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/112939729.html If there are problems with redistricting, the Wisconsin Supreme Court is the ultimate authority. (As an aside, a plan of apportionment created when Prosser was Speaker of the Assembly was held unconstitutional Prosser et al. v. Elections Board et al., 793 F. Supp. 859 (W.D. Wis. 1992) and replaced by a judicial plan of apportionment for all elections held after June 2, 1992.)
He seems to be the attorney of choice for conservative justices as well, serving as attorney for Annette Ziegler when she was investigated for ethics and ultimately admonished by her peers, and was in charge of Gov. Scott McCallum's selection process that gave Mike Gableman his first judgeship, after Gableman donated to the McCallum campaign and made fundraising calls from a taxpayer-funded office for McCallum.
Prosser may have representation, but the choice of Jim Troupis for this matter stinks to high heaven. Troupis has way too many connections to Republican politics to be a "judicious" option for this case.
-Joanne Brown | Madison, WI | April 19, 2011
We should all encourage her to request a recount, as I did today with a phone call to her campaign.
We have not had a major statewide recount for decades. This would be an excellent test of our Election System for its accuracy / security. I have always felt that our System was one with integrety, but no longer feel that way.
We all should be willing to put some money where our mouth is when she makes that request Wed. I will be first in line with my check.
-Bill Thomas | Monona, WI | April 19, 2011
It has taken many years for my eyes to see that those institutions which as a child were held in high esteem such as the churches, government and courts were in fact populated by some of the most hypocritical of individuals.
The sad part is that it appears in all too many of those described above remain in power regardless of their crimes. Sadder still is that are children are being taught that many crimes committed by those in authority go unpunished, particularly when vast amounts of money are available for the defense.
-Richard Kanak | Cherry Valley, Illinois | April 20, 2011